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A History of Violence Repeats Itself
By Alex Blagg

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Upon further consideration of this week’s “Diva Beef” post, I’ve realized that the Dueling Bimbos of today really do mirror Hip-Hop’s infamous East Coast/West Coast rivalries from the late 90’s. Replace glocks with cell phones, dis tracks with tabloid quotes, and it’s essentially the same thing. This is long and complicated, so try to stay with me:

The Main Players

Now: Lindsay Lohan
Then: Biggie Smalls
Affiliation: East Coast

Lindsay Lohan and Biggie Smalls are both enormous personalities known for their voracious appetites (Biggie for food, Lindsay for men) and highly-visible presence on the NYC scene. Biggie dealt coke, Lindsay allegedly snorted it - and both of them ended up as the West Coast posse’s most reviled foe. No one knows the exact origins of the beefs between Big and ‘Pac, or Paris and Lindsay, but they constantly fought over issues like the opposite sex (Lil’ Kim/ Wilmer Valderrama), turf (drug trade/magazine covers) and overall respect (album sales/who gets to star in Brett Ratner’s next movie).

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Now: Paris Hilton
Then: Tupac Shakur
Affiliation: West Coast

Like Tupac before her, Paris Hilton is simultaneously hated and feared, and is Gangsta #1 when it comes to representin’ the West Coast. In fact, if Los Angeles were to become a flesh and blood human being, it would be Paris Hilton. Paris displays the same brash, flamboyant, highly-publicized behavior that ‘Pac was known for, and shifts allegiances carelessly and constantly. No matter who’s beefing, or what it’s about, chances are that Paris is somewhere in the middle of it - and she wouldn’t have it any other way.

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Now: Nicole Richie
Then: Puff Daddy (aka Puffy, aka Sean Combs, aka P. Diddy, aka Diddy)
Affiliation: East Coast

Just like Puff Daddy and Tupac used to be homies before the beef, Nicole and Paris were BFF prior to their public falling out. After a productive collaboration, during which time they created some of the most staggeringly-horrible-television/legendary-rap-tracks in history, the girls/rappers parted ways after a misunderstanding (Tupac’s assailant/Paris’ sex tape) left them estranged. Nicole/Puffy has since retreated from the limelight to pursue their other business endeavors (writing books/starting clothing lines).

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Now: Mary-Kate Olsen
Then: Snoop Doggy Dogg
Affiliation: West Coast

Like Snoop, Mary-Kate is an “OG starlet” who’s already pretty successful and therefore tends to lay low and get her smoke on during most of the action, but still isn’t afraid to jump in and sucker-punch somebody when a fight breaks out. Ashley Olsen would be sort of like Nate Dogg, in that she’s a close relative who mostly just stays out of sh*t, unless she has to regulate.

Supporting Characters

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Now: Mischa Barton
Then: Jay-Z
Affiliation: East Coast

More talented than her peers, and smart enough to avoid unnecessary conflict whenever possible, Mischa will likely be one of the few starlets to emerge from this tumultous period still on top, just like the Hova did back in the day. Marissa is the Jigga of Beverly Hills.

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Now: Christina Aguilera & Mariah Carey
Then: Dr. Dre & Eazy-E
Affiliation: West Coast

Like Dr. Dre, Christina is too busy building her own career to usually concern herself with the inane bickering going on between her peers. However, she still might occasionally engage in a mostly harmless side feud to defend her respect against a fellow gangsta such as Mariah Carey, just like Dre did with Eazy-E back when The Chronic came out.

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Now: Britney Spears
Then: Michael Jackson
Affiliation: Neverland

The Prince and Princess of Pop are both far too famous, too absurd, and too busy with their own problems to bother participating in all the drama going on around them.

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Now: Kimberly Stewart (aka The Other Blonde Chick Paris Hangs Out With)
Then: Coolio (aka The Guy Who Did That Song From Dangerous Minds)
Affiliation: West Coast

Kimberly Stewart, just like Coolio, is irrelevant, cartoonish, and will be famous for 15 minutes, mostly because of her name. The main players might let her hang out now and then, but she isn’t really important enough to be involved in the drama.

The Opposite Sex

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Now: Wilmer Valderrama
Then: Lil’ Kim
Affiliation: Bi-Coastal

Just like Lil’ Kim wasn’t famous for much more than causing the beef between Tupac and Biggie, Wilmer’s only notable personality train seems to be his inexplicable ability to go back and forth between the beds of the battling starlets, making himself more famous in the process.

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Now: Greek Shipping Heirs
Then: Random Gangsta Bitches
Affiliation: Bi-Coastal

Like the big-bootied girls shaking their stuff in the background of all those old rap videos, the Greek Shipping Heirs are relatively meaningless, kept around solely for appearances, and no one really knows who they are.

45 Responses to “A History of Violence Repeats Itself”

amydawn says:

wow, that was pretty in depth…

i didn’t know diddy and tupac used to be tight. i knew him and biggy were bff. yes, i just said bff.

Jessica says:

I just have to say: great job on the pictures, its uncanny.

chuck steak says:

i’m in the club and i’m feelin myself

ct says:

2pac and puffy were not friends. this is one of the most uninformed things ive read

jim says:

“With the help of Russell Simmons, he tried to sign Tupac Shakur whom he considered the best rapper, to jump start the label.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs#Establishing_Bad_Boy

EmanBruin says:

Great post. Finally I can make sense of the Dueling Bimbos…

Jessica says:

about quoting wikipedia, you gotta be careful, esp. when the person who wrote the article doesn’t cite. The article linked above shows no sources. You can write anything on there and nobody checks it.

Ed says:

Actually Tupac and Biggie feuded over Biggie’s wife, Faith Evans.

Barcelona says:

Dude, don’t diss Wikipedia

Jeff says:

That was unbelievable. Now there’s nothing left to do but wait for Paris Hilton to come out with a diss track like Tupac’s “Hit Em Up” where she claims that “I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker.”

Tab says:

To ALL of you choosing to say that Tupac Shakur nd Sean Combs (puff daddy) were never friends then maybe you need to watch Tupacs movie RESURRECTION which somewhat sums up his life what he was about and his feuds and at one point in the movie around one of the first shootings he experienced BIGGIE AND SEAN were there together with Tupac…this movie also shows as to why Pac turned on Biggie..Any true fan would know that Tupac was affiliated with Puffy at one point or another…

Tab says:

Oh yah and the feuding didnt originally start over faith between Biggie and Pac the feuding started when Tupac was shot in an elevator and felt that biggie was part of it or had set it up….like i said watch RESURRECTION and you’ll learn all about it….

....? says:

Gay….just…..gay.

Jay Peso says:

but either way, Tupac and Puffy never made “some of the most…legendary-rap-tracks in history” together. so the analogy to the simple life fails.

theDafted says:

Dude, this is actually a great post cuz I finally made sense of both, dueling bimboz + ganstaz…

Kim says:

LMAO. this is great… nothing like comparing media whores who bitch at eachother in clubs to gangstas who, ya know, shot eachother. ah, the irony…

Tab says:

Yah Jay im pretty sure youre right on the part that no they never collaborated and made legendary tracks together but Puffy did approach Tupac to sign with Bad Boy Records in 1994 only to have Tupac decline the offer…i was mainly replying to Ct’s comment saying that they were never friends

jenne3000 says:

this is one of the funniest things i’ve read in a while. so true!!

saschafahr says:

I think that Scarlett Johanssen is a better parallel to Jay-Z, not Barton.

sorority girl says:

HAHAHAHAHAAH this is SOOO HILARIOUS!!! I am now a fan of the writer of this post, you’re evil pop culture genius.

lonna says:

Who cares whether the info was cited ligitimately, you morons need to lighten up and JUST LAUGH, it’s funny stuff! No one really knows the truth anyway, you only know about what you read in the tabloids and watch on TV. Oh… I’m sorry… I didn’t know you and Biggie were so tight…

M says:

Ba-zing!

Jumie says:

Comic GENIUS! Thank you for making me laugh!

Aqua430 says:

What about the Simpson sisters?

Zillah says:

That is hilarious! Great idea, I doubt anyone else ever thought of comparing “celebrities” with “gangstas”. And I use quotes because when they can have a real career like Jolie and Pitt then they will be celebrities, because just now they are eye candy. And gangstas, if they were really anything more than little kids with licenses to shoot off their guns, they would’ve known better than to get so public with the confrontations they held with each other.

Firecrotch! hehehe

Alex says:

The Simpson Sisters would have been on the list, but a) I couldn’t think of sibling rappers, b) they don’t really feud so much as just do dumb shit, and c) this was already way too long.

Also, Scarlett was originally considered instead of Mischa, but I felt like she’s usually too far from the fray to be included.

Other celebs I unsuccessfully tried to include: Nicky Hilton, Ashley Olsen, Hillary Duff, Bijou Phillips, Tara Reid.

B-toad says:

To all you dick holes correcting this post saying Tupac this and biggie that, you are complete fucking morons. It is obvious that this post is for comedic purposes you fucking twats. I am going to let you in on a little secret…Tupac and Biggie were both a couple of ignorant douche bags. Despite the fact they both had a decent career ahead of them, neither could act like an intelligent human being and rise above their “ghetto ways”. Fucking ignorant assholes. They have to be the dumbest fucking idiots on the face of the earth, well besides the dumb fucks who constantly put them up on a pedestal like they were gods. So I say fuck you to those assholes, may tupac and biggie rot in hell, and good post to the poster.

Tab says:

To Ionna and B-Toad …

Ionna….If you read my first comment you would have NOTICED i quoted a name of a movie summing up Tupacs life and it was basically( you fuckin dumbass and you would know this if you watched it) all words comming out of tupacs mouth through interviews of him with a female interviewer but of course you wouldnt know that because you obviously havent seen the fuckin movie

B-Toad..while you may be correct that yes they were both too ignorant to rise above their ways despite that they had a decent career ahead of them you will notice i was not praising biggie in any way nor was i praising Tupac simply correcting someone elses miss-info and while they may not be raised on a pedestal for you they are for others because in a way Tupac was “God” to those with nothing in their lives who could relate to him in his youth and his ways…He spoke the true words that no one else would speak of to do with the Ghetto but you wouldnt know this because you yourself are being too fucking ignorant to get above your fuckin arrogance and self indulgent opinons…

and yes to all the other posts saying “dumbass to those talking about the miss-info because this is for comedic reasons” How the hell do you know that we didnt laugh at this ironic comparison ourselves first??? maybe its you who need to get a life and stop critisizing others…why else would you be here reading this if you dont care about the actual history of the rappers compared to the stars???

Max says:

Kept getting stronger as it went on. The Greek Shipping Heirs / Random Gangsta Bitches is classic!

Tony says:

Hey B-Toad, I bet you feel real safe saying that in your $600,000 suburban home huh?

Raymond says:

I understand this is for comedic purposes but the comparisons between starlet/diva’s and old school rappers just is not tight enough. Tupac and puffy were never more than acquaintances. To say they were friends is a stretch, but to say they were BFF? Paris never went out with wilmer so saying she and lindsay fought over him is just not true, and tupac was the actor or actor wannabe, not biggie. It is asserted that like tupac, paris is hated and feared, but who fears paris hilton, honestly (as austin powers would exclaim)!. The falling out between nicole and paris isn’t made very clear because the sex tape happened before or during their television series which spanned a couple seasons so that could not have ben the reason for their falling out, if they did indeed have a falling out at all. Except for britney spears and the greek shipping heirs, the rest of the comparisons are totally bogus and without foundation or merit so it takes a bit away from the humor because it doesn’t really make sense, not even in a funny way. It just seems like a lot of this was stretching the truth just to make sense and because there was nothing to compare it still didn’t make sense so it wasn’t really that entertaining. I agree with Tab’s rant and B-toad is a jerk. I know i sound like a jerk myself here but…i’m just trying to play devil’s advocate.

Lizzypoo says:

Well i personally just laughed at the joke. Yeah all the facts aren’t exactly rock solid but…i mean i dosen’t really bother me, i just saw it as a joke. I can understand though for ppl who really love Biggie or Tupac why that would be upsetting. Its cool though i really don’t think the poster meant to offend. It was funny to me either way, and uh B-toad take a chill pill, there is no need to be so nasty! Main point of my comment thanks for the laugh.

2pacGOD says:

Man, out of all the peope mentioned in this website, every1 posted in sayin shit but 2pac. Man 2pac is GOD, Any u motherfuckas dont tink so, FUCK OFF.

Beaujangles says:

Tupac Afenni Shakur is in fact not god.

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BIGGIE SMALLS IS BIATCH!!!@## tahhahah Im Rick James bitch.

Fuck yo couch nigga.!

B-Toad says:

Yeah I do feel comfortable saying that while I sit in my “600k suburban home”. Guess what asswipe, I earned every bit of my home by working (key word here WORKING), even if I had to work shitty jobs to get to where I am at today. I paid my way through school with those shitty jobs. I was then able to get a better career. I don’t care where you come from there is no excuse for not be able to succeed in life. Everyone is so quick to make excuses why they can’t do something (oh oh I come from the ghetto, big fucking deal) when it all boils down to one thing …life choices. There it is ladies and gentlemen, life fucking choices. So yes I can proudly say what ever the fuck I want because I am where I am today because I made the right choices. I don’t give a flying monkey shit about anyone who loves Tupac because they were poor and had nothing, and he was a God to them. Go to work dick holes then you won’t be poor. Tupac was a piece of shitty toilet paper that I wiped my ass with.

Tab says:

its not just life choices dumbass you must be white because you would realize that it is a hell of a lot harder for a colored person to make it because of racial prejudist against others and no im not colored so i dont know it first hand but i have very close colored relatives who ive seen it happen to and if you care so little abotu what were saying and what we think then why are you continuing to post shit and getting angrier and more frustrated as you go? if you didnt care none of what we had to say would phase you….Its also a hell of a lot harder to be successful in life when you have hardly any money to start with…but im sure you know what the life of being poor is….im once again not saying i am poor but ive seen what starting out poor can do to a person..which you obvisouly havent and youve once again dignified that you only think of yourself and are an ignorant jerk with once again your very self indulgent opinions which no one any longer cares to hear…hopefully this time youll get that through your dimwitted head

Kevin says:

Don’t forget both Mischa and S. Carter died on screen (The O.C. and 99 Problems music video, respectively).

Madonna = Suge Knight

… does that make K-fed Priscilla Presley?

And the biggest similarity: just like the imaginary feuds between starlets, the East/West beef was largely fabricated by the media.

Oh, and Xtina should be Eazy, she looks more like she could have AIDS. Dirrrty!

MJ says:

Thank you Tab for your opened minded understanding of African American Life. And It is a BIG DEAL. Although I cannot recall my infant and toddler years when my parents were dirt poor with 5 children, I can tell u straight up that life is not just about making the right chocies. My mother was a graduate from Geroge Town University Midwifery School, with a 4.0 GPA, and may I add, “The 1st MIDWIFE PERIOD, TO HAVE FULL DELIVERY PRIVIELEGES” at George Town Hospital. She wanted and needed to start her own business so she could make money to support her family and could not get one loan until she said it was a white woman’s business. I wonder Y????? It wasnt cause she had bad credit!!! Point is my mother lived and still lives a Godly life and was on his path, but it was blocked by people who didnt want to see her do any better that what she was.

This is why many people who saw Tupac and Biggie praised them. Cause they showed peolpe that you could get out of ur situation. If you had to hustle, rap, play a sport, or stay in the books, they gave u a glimmer of hope. And just to let u know B-Toad……..both Biggie and Tupac “WORKED”!!!! Matter of Fact it would be better to say that were on their Grind!!! It takes a hell of a person to do that!!!

ALti says:

This was just supposed to make people laugh but this Btoad guy turns it into a political debate. I say “suck a dick up until you hiccup BITCH! Now that’s ignorant.

fyck says:

Paris = tupac! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER

Carol says:

Basically you could have said all the attitude with none of the talent or entertainment value of the early rapping squables. It was funny to hear grown men act like school yard b itches over money and fame. Sad, when you saw the amount of talent. But at least their names are resident in our minds. Where as these mindless drones self induldgent bitches are just looking for life to tell them to shut the f uck up and sit the f uck down, you arent that awesome.

Sagittariusbri86 says:

Okay now I know that the best week ever guys are crazy to go in-depth like that, man ya’ll really was showing us how people new and old are related and it is kinda true some of them.

Uniquemoi04 says:

So if Lindsay is Biggie and Paris is Tupac, when do they get shot so we can go on with our lives?

Lauren says:

Uniquemoi just made the comment of the week.

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